Phimosis... yes or no

Hope I don't offend somebody with my question here. However I think we all are modern adult, so I think that topic belongs to our life the same as all the other things we talk about.
So what is the point... over the years I noticed that many non-circumcised Asian girls got problems with pulling back her foreskin if her penis became erect. Some girls got it just a little but others on the other hand couldn't pull her foreskin back completely. No way. If they tried it to do, then they got pain. So one girl that I met tried it once as long until she got it. But then she had a build-up of blood in her glans so that I became frightened about her penis and stopped it.
Well, I'm also a non-circumcised man but I never had problems with pulling back the foreskin. Also, I never heard about so much frequency in Germany or other countries. If I think about it more and more, then it seems to me that more girls in Asia than western men could have something like Phimosis or Paraphimosis. And on the other hand I think, it also can be a bit unhygienically if they can not clean her glans up.

Is it just me or can it be that Phimosis occurs with increasing frequency with Asian girls?

So maybe someone of the Asian member can enlighten me (us) about that phenomenon.
Thanks

Frankly speaking, after years of living in Asia I never heard that this is a common problem for asian tgirls... But I'm not so experienced and would like to hear opinions from tgirls.

I am not Asian but I am uncircumcised.

I think it is caused by the style of masturbation. If a boy (or TS) masturbates without fully pulling the skin back then it is likely the penis will outgrow the foreskin. Pulling the skin back when not erect is often not enough as a lot of penises increase in size considerably either in length or girth (or both) when erect.

When I get erect I can't easily pull the skin 'all' the way back although I can if I am slow and gentle. When I first went on hormones I lost my sex drive completely for many months. The first time I touched myself after, I pulled back hard and ...rip...ended up with a very sore foreskin that took a week to heal. I am conscious about making sure that doesn't happen again.

This is not a hygiene problem if the skin can be pulled back we flaccid for cleaning. I have only ever seen one case of this not being the case. A deaf guy who pulled his willy out and show all the girls at a party was almost entirely closed - literally just enough to pee through. I think the body would have taken care of the build up naturally (which actually has antibiotic properties) and is not unclean per se.

First I want to say thank you to all member in here. Thanks, because nobody feels offend regarding my question and because we can discuss so frankly. I really like open-minded and intellectually discussion.
Also I would like to apologize to all for my English grammar because English isn't my native language.

Well Oztgirl, I don't understand so really what you mean. I think, if you masturbate, then it is common and belongs to a good feeling that your glans comes out of the foreskin. Or am I wrong?
If I look at myself when I get hard, then the skin goes back automatically and I think that's normally... or not? If the penis increases in size, then the foreskin goes back without pulling and the glans comes out. Not complete but it comes out. The last bit you make with your hand. I think, that happened with almost all men that have a uncircumcised penis.
But as I wrote before; some of my experiences were different. Also if you watch porn-pics or movies, then you can see a number of Asian girls with a closed penis. That means, the girls get hard but her foreskin still covers up her glans almost entirely. And if they masturbate, they don't move her skin up and down. They just stroke her skin until they ejaculate. That's my experience.
Maybe it is their style of masturbation but I don't believe because most experiences were different, and I don't believe we (Asians & Westerner) have different styles to do that. I think, maybe they have an innate problem with her foreskin or even an infectious disease, so called phimosis.
Know you, here in Germany the paediatricians always test the baby boys as well the younger boys for the correct function of her foreskin. So maybe in Thailand they don't do it and parents don't take care about it.

Your experiences you made Oztgirl, I know very well. If you have had sexual abstinence for a long while, then you can get problems with pulling the skin back in erect condition. That's correct. And if you pull it back with force... hui... it's almost the same as if you penetrate into a very tight anus. oops And yes, it can be very painful and your best thing will hurts you a good while. But if you have a normal sex-life or you masturbate from time to time, then you should have no more problems. So I wonder that you always have to take care about it.

Hygiene problem... yes of course, the body would have taken care of the build up of sperm. However if you have done a pee or ejaculated and your penis is wet from seminal fluid, and if you can't pull back the skin to clean the glans up, then it can be very unclean and smells badly.
I myself prefer a clean willy to myself and my partner. By the way, I don't think you are keen to get the build up of sperm on your tongue. On the other hand, the build up can cause infections too.

Hi Fonseca,

Firstly, Phimosis isn't an infectious disease although it can be triggered by an infection in the penis that results in skin tightening. It is simply a physiological instance of the head of the penis being bigger than the foreskin can stretch.

Not all people who are uncircumcised pull the skin all the way back - the feeling of a soft foreskin is much nicer than then skin of a hand. I am sure a warm wet orifice is much nicer than a hand any day - although I can't vouch for that myself - I have only ever penetrated a couple times in my life and I hated it. You also need to take into account that not all foreskin sizes are the same. When I am erect, my foreskin still covers the entire head of my penis. (I never thought I would ever write that in a public forum!)

I have seen cases of circumcised men putting the head of their penis inside another man's foreskin. This is known as docking. I imagine some men do it with TS too.

It is also pleasurable because the natural secretions (pre-cum) builds up under the foreskin which increases the pleasure.

I have seen various ways of masturbating. I think various factors come into play - culture, circumcision status and general sexual experience come into play. Some men use the whole hand method which 'looks' manly and is probably why you see that more in porno - and also because it probably provides greater overall stimulation than other methods. Another common style is the finger clasp, where the person uses a few fingers (usually the thumb and two or three other fingers) to masturbate instead of the palm of the hand. This is common in younger boys and I think is the norm until they have seem it done differently in porno or through personal experimentation. It is probably the case that different styles are used by the same person. Everyone is different I guess.

Another important thing that needs to be remembered is that female hormones change the way a person responds sexually. The centre of a man's sexuality is his penis - the opposite is true for women. If you grab a man (gently) by the crotch, they will respond favourably. If you grab a TS or woman in the groin then she is not going to respond well. She needs to be warmed up with hugs and kisses and even some mental stimulation. I am not saying men don't need other forms of stimulation and I would contend that men enjoy them as much as women - but as far as sex goes a man can be ready for action in a lot shorter period of time than a women. Having been on both sides of the fence, I can vouch that it is probably due to hormones - even my orgasms feel different since being on hormones (13 years now).

M.

where is the problem to talk about? Its always interesting to read about other ones experiences.





I never saw and heard about, but sounds very interesting.

Sorry, but that I don't understand so really. (maybe my english skill are guilty) Can you explain it to me once.


BTW, here are 2 interesting web-pages about phimosis...

http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/diseases/facts/phimosis.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phimosis

Pre-cum (also known as pre-ejaculate) is the small amounts of liquid that a lot of men (not all) men get coming out of their penis when they are aroused - this is before ejaculation.

Here is a wiki page on pre-ejaculate - it also contains photos - you have to click the 'show' button to see it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-cum

M.

Yes Hon, I know about pre-ejaculate.
But my question is... why does the natural secretions builds up under the foreskin increases the pleasure?
That is what I don't understand.

Ah, sorry. It acts as lubricant.

M.