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 Post subject: Castration
 Post Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:43 am 
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I did read and hear already often about castration with girls. Likely mostly in the States and Thailand. However until now I never saw or met a girl who had a castration.
Is it true they take them their testicle out of the scrotum, or do they just cut the sperm cord?
I would like if anybody could tell me what is the reason for this surgery and what is the advantage or risc for the girls?


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 Post Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:56 am 
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Castration is the complete removal of the testes. Cutting of the sperm chord is called a vasectomy and many men have this as a form of contraception.

Removing the testes means that a lower dosage of hormones can be achieved and keeps the penis intact. There is no problem with testosterone. Some get castrated because they can't afford complete SRS. Transsexuals in the slums in India have been known to use a tourniquet around their entire genitals to slowly kill their genitals which eventually rot away. They do this because they can't afford proper surgery. This is of course dangerous and many die because of infection.

Some TS who are not planning on having full surgery get castrated for the above stated reasons. I am considering this myself. I am not planning on having the surgery in the near future - maybe when I am older.

I too have not met anyone who has had castration probably because of two reasons - 1. people who would consider that have the full operation anyway so wait until then. I have heard though that some surgeons don't recommend it because is keeps the anatomy natural for future SRS.

2. Modern prescription hormones and anti-androgens are very effective at controlling the testosterone produced by the body. Some TS have testosterone levels so low. they are lower than a genetic female. This makes castration irrelevant.

I should note that long term use of estrogen is known to have some potentially serious side effects. If an older TS who has been on hormones for a long time then having castration will enable a reduction in the amount of hormones required and therefore eliminating potential side effects. Many gender clinics already recommend transdermal estrogen as the preferred method of treatment for older TS (40 years and older).

I hope this answers your original question.

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Thanks Lady, yes, for the moment I know a bit more.
How is it with sexual activities without testicle? Hope you know what I mean. :oops:


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How is it with sexual activities without testicle? Hope you know what I mean. :oops:


I have wondered that myself. You would think it would stop you being able to get an erection, but considering many TS have next to no testosterone anyway and can still get erections to some degree then I can't see what difference it would make. I have very low testosterone levels (lower than most women) and can still get hard although I don't have what is called 'spontaneous erections'. They are the erections men get for no reason. :) I really need to be mentally stimulated and put in the mood to get very hard. This is of course normal and is partly why men can 'get off' more easily than women.

I will talk to my endocrinologist about that when I see him next. He may have castrated patients.

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How about ejaculate? Are they able or they don't produce sperm any more? :oops:


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The hormones stop sperm and reduce the amount of ejaculate. That is why you see many TS in porn movies who only ejaculate a tiny amount or not at all. This shouldn't change as the cowpers gland produces secretions still and is what lubricate a TS's vagina if she has had a surgery although not all people produce this.


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Well, here I go demonstrating my ignorance again. Castration is what they used to do to the eunuchs guarding harems. I've always been led to believe that the reason they did this was that the removal of the testes lowered the libido and eliminated the sex drive. That doesn't sound like much fun, even today.

And, otzgirl, the porn flicks that I've seen where the tgirl can't get it up, ejaculation is nigh impossible. Or, with considerable effort, a small amount of clear fluid is ejaculated as a consequence of all the female hormones that the tgirl has taken.

The question for me is, if you can't cum, what fun is the sex?


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Orgasm and ejaculating are separate things.


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Well, here I go demonstrating my ignorance again. Castration is what they used to do to the eunuchs guarding harems. I've always been led to believe that the reason they did this was that the removal of the testes lowered the libido and eliminated the sex drive. That doesn't sound like much fun, even today.

I am sure the harem boys were castrated for that reason - but as far as sex drive goes, I am sure they were not taking hormones. Also, the testes and ovaries are not the only parts of the body that produces testosterone - the adrenal gland in the brain also produces small amounts of testosterone.

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The question for me is, if you can't cum, what fun is the sex?

Orgasm and ejaculating are separate things. The hormones stop you ejaculating (or greatly reduces it) - it doesn't stop you orgasming.


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oztgirl wrote:
The hormones stop sperm and reduce the amount of ejaculate. That is why you see many TS in porn movies who only ejaculate a tiny amount or not at all.



Thanks for your effort to explain it to me Oztgirl. That's really kindly. However I don't watch that often porn-movies (that always reminds me of nice things I miss). Therefore, I said before, I never saw a girl without testicles. I have no idea how that looks. But I think it can look very arousing, a scrotum without balls. Or do they remove the scrotum too?
Girls who sprayed out just a little sperm I have experienced. They said, they are on hormones.

Well Oztgirl, seems to be a bit complicated for a man. If I understand you right, then hormones or rather estrogene reduce your testosterone level but don't stop you being able to get an erection. However you can ejaculate.
When they remove your balls, then you can reduce the dosage of hormones/estrogene, you still be able to get hard but you stop to produce sperm. Am I right? But when you have a climax, then you have a dry orgasm.
So when you have a lower testosterone level than a genetic woman; why do you want to remove your testicle?


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