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Fonseca
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Post subject: Re: Straight or Gay? Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:14 am |
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giancarlo wrote: They say men who are attracted to t-girls deny their desire for having sex with men. No Giancarlo, I don't agree... I also think that men don't want to deny their homosexuality if they into tgirls. They aren't homosexual. But I also think there are a few gays who have sex with tgirls. Maybe it is because they find no lover or partner for having sex. So they are looking for a tgirl who have no problem to do it with a gay man. But I think that's mostly femboys.
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oztgirl
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:26 am |
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Quote: But I also think there are a few gays who have sex with tgirls. Maybe it is because they find no lover or partner for having sex. So they are looking for a tgirl who have no problem to do it with a gay man. But I think that's mostly femboys. I couldn't agree less. I would argue that femboys get laid just as frequently as everyone else. Some straightmen don't really care for the difference of tgirl or femboy. I have seen very masculine men picking up feminine guys in clubs. Many men are attracted to femininity and not just strictly 'femaleness'. I have seen some dating website profiles that state, woman, ts or femboy. This is why I contend sexuality is as much about gender roles as it is about gender which is why some very masculine men like tgirls and tgirls like masculine men - one reinforces the other. Also, sexuality is not binary and static. For some strange reason bisexuality gets ignored when it is often a much more accurate description of someone's sexuality. I would also point out that just because someone engages in one form of sexual behaviour this doesn't define them. Many men experiment with homosexuality especially in the absence of a woman. Some will continue with with the experimentation even if they have a girlfriend for various reasons - no satisfaction at home either because of quantity or quality, convenience, relationship stresses etc. Just because you eat chinese food doesn't make you Chinese. Identity including sexuality is ultimately private and a personal expression and shouldn't be judged or labelled by anyone. It is this labelling and judging is why men fear being with a TS in the first place. We are committing a crime of which we are also a victim. Bring back the principles of Free Love from the sixties! Be and Love who you want.  M.
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Virginia87106
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:08 pm |
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There are many men and women who are attracted to trans bodies, and I do not know if we can label them so easily. The attraction to mixed gender bodies can have many reasons and histories, in fact it can be an attraction to bodies that are different as well as bodies that carry elements of male and female. It may be more complex than we imagine.
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oztgirl
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Post subject: Re: Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:27 pm |
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Virginia87106 wrote: It may be more complex than we imagine. Or more simple than we think. I think we over think the issues sometimes. Transsexuality is not abnormal and not unique to humans. A friend of mine's husband has a saying - "Every saucepan has a lid" - there is a perfect match for everybody - if we allow it to happen of course. Also, I think we all forget that sexuality is not just about physical attraction. The happiest relationships are probably also the most oddball ones. M.
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Fonseca
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Post subject: Re: Re: Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:50 am |
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oztgirl wrote: Virginia87106 wrote: It may be more complex than we imagine. A friend of mine's husband has a saying - "Every saucepan has a lid" -  the same what I have said in another topic... that's a well-known german saying
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oztgirl
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:05 am |
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It is interesting that it is a German saying. My friend is Dutch.
M.
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eore
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:11 pm |
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Hi all this is my first post '' yes im a newbie'' I am a bi guy, I realised when I was 30 that I was attracted to 'some guys' not all, I have been in the norm relationship, girlfriends engaged, but there are times that I feel the need to be with guy, I was in a relationship with a t-girl a few years ago and it was the best relationship I ever had. I think that its all down to your mind set, but I agree a gay guy just likes guys and thats it, a bi guy likes both and a t-girl is the ultimate joining of the both sexes, too beautiful for words. Thank you for listning xx
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oztgirl
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:13 pm |
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 Welcome eore, nice first post. 
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Fonseca
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:46 am |
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After reading the newest comments I was thinking again about, and I came to new thought...
Well, we straight guys love girls and tits. We straight guys also love cocks. In most cases we are enamoured of our own cocks exclusively... and I think there’s nothing queer about that. But for a tiny minority of straight guys, their love of cock extends to other cocks. Maybe it is because of our taste for straight porn movies or pics that prominently displays cock. But a thin slice of us straight guys actually lust after cock... but just the cocks, not the men. And those in an even thinner slice of this already thin slice of us straight guys pie actively long for cock (cocks other than our own) but we are straight, and we don’t want to mess around with a real man... just a cock. And that’s where our tgirls come in the game. They’ve got dicks, and their dicks aren’t attached to men. Their dicks are attached to girls, and therefore we straight guys do look for relationship with a tgirl. So are we gay because of that? No, we are not. I think our sexuality is an exclusively straight identified male with a hunger for cock phenomenon. Maybe our tgirl obsession technically disqualifies us from the 100% straight category, but it doesn’t necessarily make us to bisexual or gay men... just a touch queer.
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Fonseca
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:03 pm |
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Como estas hombre? Me gusta mucho que veo un hombre de España. Espero que sientes bien aqui en el foro? Have lived some years in Andalusia and know, there are a lot nice-looking latin tgirls. Anyway, I miss a lot España.
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