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 Post subject: SEX OR LOVE
 Post Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:48 pm 
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what do u ( Men ) look into us ( TS ) and how will u guys treat us : as a sex toy or as a loves one ?

which will u choose ?

no sex no love
or
no love no sex

is there exsist any forever and lasting love among TS ?


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 Post subject: Re: SEX OR LOVE
 Post Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:18 pm 
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A "healthy" relationship has both of these , body & feeling pleasures.

Theres no special treat for t-girlz and shouldnt exist.
tgirls=girls=human beings. Everyone has the right to love and get love.
A "serious" man who date or love or dream or whatever a t-girl, he already knows about his special choice...

But anyway, its not up to men only! sex & love require two people.
That means Its also up to you to choose the right partner/Theres not a mr Perfect btw
Also, There are plenty of men out there who are interested in loving a special woman.
Focus on them girlz ;)

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 Post Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:54 am 
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Your English is fine Mr. Nice.

TS_Shiera, all men want sex. They always have and always will. It is normal. The biggest mistake women (including TS) make is demonising men for this. Men crave sex the same way women crave physical intimacy and affection. Sex is an outlet for them - it makes them feel the same way we feel when we get the affection and love. Two roads leading to the same place.

Women go to so much trouble to make themselves desirable to men but then play games when it comes to the 'crunch'. I get very annoyed when I hear of women who use sex as a weapon against their men.

This doesn't mean men have a right to sex. They still have to work at it and not take women for granted. Some men need to be reminded of this sometimes. ;)

Also, you ask in your posting if lasting love exists amongst transexuals. I think a more apt question is 'does love exist'. It depends on what you mean by love. Being a bit more realistic about life and working out what you really want is a big help. Remember, soap operas and romance novels are NOT real. People are far more complex.

Love is an experience between two people. Love doesn't mean taking ownership of another person. It is a shared experience that may last a long time or a short time. When you find it, treasure it. It may not be there tomorrow.

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 Post Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:02 pm 
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thanks for your both opinion MR.Nice and Mame

i appreciate and share this comment..

i dont ask a special treat from man for ts , Mr Nice.. normal love is among man and woman.. and love between man and transsexual is abnormal..

what will the man family say if he been with ts ? what will people and friends around say to him ? will he marry a ts ? how much they really interested to be with ts ? can the man face all of this to be together with ts ?

some mans say yes , they really like ts and will face all of that.. but , for how long they can stand on this ? will they change later to have a normal relation with a genetic woman ?.. majority of them want to have both woman and ts .. why they want to have both ? they want to fuck to have a children ( with woman ) and to get fuck ( with ts ) ? is that the reason ?

most of man are hipocrite.. they like to be with ts but they dont want any other people , family or friend know that they like ts.. they can be with ts just in the room.. outside from the room they pretend to not be a ts lover.. is this a fair treat to us ? its hard for them to be honest for themself !!

why man need to hide their sex interest to ts ? any man have a nice answer for this ?

yes, i agree with u Mame that man just want a sex from us.. i felt that way too.. that is why im doing escort job.. u look pretty anyway

this is just an opinion to share with man and ts.. do not take any heart feeling on this matter.. ok

all the best , Shiera


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 Post subject: Re: SEX OR LOVE
 Post Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:47 pm 
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First of all, love is the same for everyone...

Second, Bcause as we have already said, ts is a taboo in many countries.
But its not THAT tragic as you present it girlz. As I said not everyone are belong in the same "category", thats why Ive told before , you should concentrate to these ppl

And as for me, Im a person who interested in ts-s but I wouldnt admit it in my family. Friends are supposed to accept you as you are, gay , straight etc .
Maybe Im coward or whatever but neither I wanna hurt their feelings nor mine.


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 Post Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:28 am 
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Hi Sheira, I think you are being a little pessimistic. I don't believe love between a man and transexual is abnormal. Our societies see it as abnormal to varying degrees. The biggest culprit in propagating this view is religion. This is why I am a little hostile to religious types - but don't get me started on that!

I believe that transexualism is normal. It exists across all sections of human societies and animals. Some animal species even change sex as part of their normal development. Just as sexuality is seldom black & white, neither is gender.

I didn't say men only want sex. I said they want sex. Men are motivated by sex the same way women are motivated by love and affection.

I don't think men are hypocrites, however it should be noted that men are much more pragmatic when it comes to falling in love. Men will analyse and make a concious decision wether to allow themselves to fall in love. Women will do it without this process.

Just remember that genetic women spend a long time trying to find their ideal partner - there is no reason why we shouldn't have to go through that process either.

I think that there will be certain pressures on a relationship where one person is transgendered. Every relationship will have pressures. Yes, a man will have to at some stage face questions about his own sexuality because of his relationship with a transexual. Any man who thinks he won't is being naive. If the relationship is a good one then hopefully the benefits will worth it. If he has his wits around him he will realise that he gets to miss out on all the problems associated with a relationship with a woman.

Many men want kids, but there is no reason why he can't achieve this regardless. It is not uncommon in some countries for men to become fathers quite young. If you are lucky you may meet a man who already has kids. If not, then it may be the case a man will go outside the relationship to achieve this. This may cause feelings of jealousy but I don't believe I have the right to stop this and accept is as part of life. Anyway, if he has a child then he is less likely to want to get married to a genetic woman.

Sorry for my long winded post. :)

Human relationships are complex. Societies are changing. Who knows what will happen in the next ten years or so. It will take courage on the part of 'our boys' but I think some of them are up to it.

M.


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 Post subject: Re: SEX OR LOVE
 Post Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 1:02 pm 
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TS_Shiera wrote:
what do u ( Men ) look into us ( TS ) and how will u guys treat us : as a sex toy or as a loves one ?

which will u choose ?

no sex no love
or
no love no sex

is there exsist any forever and lasting love among TS ?


I for one Love TS Sex ;)


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Mame sure said just about everything needed I think. I will add even though our societies may say it's abnormal... but we are a part of our societies and we are getting to be a bigger and bigger part every day. The people who both participate and people who accept our community, so we are changing what is now abnormal into normal.

I guess I could add that I feel more strongly for love because I know Love makes sex a million times better. True, I don't think I would turn down sex with someone I trust and like, but if I love them... wow... so much better!

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 Post Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:03 am 
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hhmm have u found your love JJHunt ??

anyway , thanks for your guys comment here


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I thought I had it a couple times in my life, but it didn't last forever since I am without right now. I am currently dating or looking for it again, but I'm not in any real rush.

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