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 Post Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 7:25 am 
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Seems to me that gender reassignment surgery just wrongly vindicates LBs being treated by and large like sex toys.


@Sablicious: Perhaps SRS is meant to vindicate those of us who who suffer from GID and are getting SRS for the sake of being a woman, feeling like a woman, and having vaginal sex like a woman.

To me, and to many in western culture, the term "LadyBoy" is just as derogatory and insulting as Faggot, Dyke, HeShe, Trannie, Decptacon (Sorry...I got caught up in the moment and made that last one up. :) )

If you're a woman in you mind, heart, and soul, and you're looking to keep your penis, do you really suffer from GID? Or is it something else. (Like maybe a lifestyle choice like being gay or Lesbian)

I don't know... I don't really have a penis, but I suffer from GID.

Or at least I feel that I do.

I welcome clarification on this issue.

Warmest Regards,
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 Post Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:42 am 
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That is like so so wrong


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 Post Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 9:48 am 
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@ Tgirl51

Gender Identity Disorder is a psychologically issue. Ultimately it's to do with being uncomfortable in one's own skin. Something everybody goes through to varying degrees and is not something exclusive to transgender people. Eventually we 'mature' to a point where we learn to love ourselves for what we are and expect others to accept us thusly.

Attempting to tackle this problem from a physical angle is not the answer. Surgery is a 'band aid solution' and a dubious way to get oneself to this 'comfort zone'. Oftentimes post-op TG girls are in fact unhappier than before the operation (*seen it). A number of reason can be attributed to this 'post-operative dissatisfaction' of course, but the fact remains that the surgery is no panacea for someone who does not like their own self.

I stand by my comments that if one truly believes themselves to be of the opposing sex to which their biology dictates, then undertaking such 'iffy' and irrevocable surgery is a misstep. If you're doing it to be more female, it's a fallacy. You may look more female down there, but it's no more 'real' than anal sex is as a substitution for vaginal intercourse. In fact, given the limitations of the results of this surgery (depth, girth, reduced sensitivity etc) anal sex feels more 'vaginal' than an SRS vagina anyway (...from a guy's viewpoint).

From a relationship/love standpoint, I think you'll find most guys who are interested in TG girls do prefer a penis over a 'pseudo vagina'. I know this anecdotally and it's also logical when you think about it. Love may have little to do with the penis or vagina ultimately. But if you're naive enough to think that males do not consider these [superficial] aspects when entertaining becoming involved with a TG girls, be it rightly or wrongly, then you're destined for disappointment I'm afraid.


(PS: In my opinion)


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 Post Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:09 am 
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Considering all the genetic research going on into transsexualism, I doubt any of this will be relevant within a few years. Cross-gender behaviour was around long before psychiatry tried to categorise and pathologise it. I personally still believe it's a brain intersex condition. It could well be just one of natures normal tangents. Who knows? Time will reveal all.

The decision to have or not to have the surgery is personal and shouldn't be up for criticism or debate.


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 Post Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:48 am 
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oztgirl wrote:
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The decision to have or not to have the surgery is personal and shouldn't be up for criticism or debate.

I couldn't agree more, don't let your personal perceptions cloud your bigotry.

The term Ladyboy might be offensive to some westerners, but that is the preferred label for many in SE Asia, where I might add many of the confused sex, or third sex are happy to live as a girl, as they feel effeminate, but don't want to lose their sex life, or are afraid of surgery after hearing of some of the problems associated with it.

Denounce me if you wish, but I find the female form more attractive than the male form, but I also like a penis, and if there are hundreds of Ladyboy's looking for someone like me, then it looks like an ideal match. There are lots of married Ladyboys who are quite happy with their lives, but if it doesn't fit your stereotypical image of what transgender is about then the problem is yours, not theirs. I just find it odd that a transgendered person could be so judgmental, and at the same time complain about being judged.

Pete


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A friend of mine once said in response to a TS finding a partner, 'Every pot has a lid'.

Here's to finding our respective lids! (and hoping we don't end up like the proverbial fryingpan!).


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 Post Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:30 am 
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Sablicious wrote:
@ Tgirl51


From a relationship/love standpoint, I think you'll find most guys who are interested in TG girls do prefer a penis over a 'pseudo vagina'. I know this anecdotally and it's also logical when you think about it. Love may have little to do with the penis or vagina ultimately. But if you're naive enough to think that males do not consider these [superficial] aspects when entertaining becoming involved with a TG girls, be it rightly or wrongly, then you're destined for disappointment I'm afraid.


(PS: In my opinion)


This is how I see it too, and even real vagina's are overrated, they are all different and trying to please the owner is damn near impossible, whereas I know how a penis works, it is quite apparent when it's ready for action and climax is readily apparent. So if you're happy living as a girl and you like to orgasm, why cut off your penis when there are guys like me who like it as it is.

One t-girl I chatted with said she hated having her penis touched, didn't like anal sex, and was still looking for a guy. I know hormone treatment can put you off sex, but if you seriously expect to find a partner who is happy to live without sex, then good luck, you're going to need it, or just get used to being alone.

Try to keep your aspirations within the bounds of reality.

Pete


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 Post Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:32 am 
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There is the flip side - Men who would happily have a relationship with a TS as long as she DOESN'T have a penis anymore. I have had both kinds of men in my life. At the end of the day, You have to do what is in your own best interests.

M.


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 Post Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:39 am 
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Pete X wrote:
oztgirl wrote:
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The decision to have or not to have the surgery is personal and shouldn't be up for criticism or debate.

I couldn't agree more, don't let your personal perceptions cloud your bigotry.

The term Ladyboy might be offensive to some westerners, but that is the preferred label for many in SE Asia, where I might add many of the confused sex, or third sex are happy to live as a girl, as they feel effeminate, but don't want to lose their sex life, or are afraid of surgery after hearing of some of the problems associated with it.

Denounce me if you wish, but I find the female form more attractive than the male form, but I also like a penis, and if there are hundreds of Ladyboy's looking for someone like me, then it looks like an ideal match. There are lots of married Ladyboys who are quite happy with their lives, but if it doesn't fit your stereotypical image of what transgender is about then the problem is yours, not theirs. I just find it odd that a transgendered person could be so judgmental, and at the same time complain about being judged.

Pete


I think you have addressed this post to the wrong person. It wasn't me criticising the use of the term Ladyboy.


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 Post Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 8:42 pm 
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oztgirl wrote:
I think you have addressed this post to the wrong person. It wasn't me criticising the use of the term Ladyboy.

The first paragraph was in response to your comment, the paragraph break should indicate an end, the next paragraph moved on to another subject. Sorry if it confused, I couldn't be bothered with multiple quotes.

Sorry Miss, I won't do it again................. honest.

Pete


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