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 Post Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:12 am 
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[...]perhaps because buddhism is more tolerating then catholizism[...]

Catholicism is inherently intolerant and exclusive, as are most of those deity-centric beliefs. Buddhism is more a philosophy and as such doesn't have black and white wrongs and rights. Hence it being a tolerant or inclusive system.

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[...]t-girls in Philippines call themselves "gay"[...]

A fallacious, insular misinterpretation of the term. That, and the misnomer also relates to the aforementioned religion related issue.

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[...]Seeing myself still as a staight guy, that was sometimes reeeeally irritating for me[...]

Yes -- you're indeed straight... provided it's transsexuals you are attracted to not cross-dressers or men. Though, it should hardly matter (or indeed be irritating) if you are au fait with the reality of what a transsexual is -- ie. a female mind in a male body.

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[...]holding hands with her or giving her a kiss was for me quite natural[...] in a certain location, it became clear to everyone there (because of her gay and tg friends) that she was a t-girl[...]

Here's the rub: Would you still be so openly affectionate with her if it were obvious from the get-go to all and sundry that she was transsexual? Image

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[...]for the rest of that evening there she was really afraid, to be touched and kissed as normally, because of possible bad reactions from the "normal" people[...]

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All of you have very valid points. The TG's aren't the only Asians with preference for Caucasians. In fact a large proportion of hetero & gay girls & guys from some Asian countries are as keen as the TG's. I do not have the stats.

I raise one point that might irk the westerner. The West may be open to gay and lesbian relationship and in some cases legal marriages. But it has not given due place to the TG's. They are still a silent minority in the west. In Thailand, Philippines and Indonesia to a lesser extent, the Lady Boys & TG's have greater acceptance. The flow of Caucasians into Thailand for the "TG experience" is one testament to this point.

I have a dear LB chat buddy (http://www.face-pic.com/_crystal) who is so vehement about her stand on Caucasians that any suggestion by me to checkout the local Thai man is met with immediate rejection. 'She' is driven by a force that I do not share with her, that refuses to look at a Thai man who in my opinion could be an appropriate option in terms of language, culture, values and religion.

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 Post subject: Re: Foreign men for Asian Tgirls
 Post Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:51 pm 
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greetings from the philippines!

i'm attracted to foreign men because i think they are capable of understanding my situation. of genuinely loving me. in the philippines people like us get mocked and laughed at on the streets. they simply view us as crossdressers.

and besides, i do dream of being legally female and in the philippines it's not possible. i can't update my gender in this country... and it sucks.
i'll have to marry someone from a country where same sex marriage is legal and be a citizen there and drop my philippine passport.


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 Post Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:47 am 
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love_in_idleness wrote:
[...]i'm attracted to foreign men because i think they are capable of understanding my situation. of genuinely loving me. in the philippines people like us get mocked and laughed at on the streets. they simply view us as crossdressers.

Reason: religion.

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[...]and besides, i do dream of being legally female and in the philippines it's not possible. i can't update my gender in this country... and it sucks.

Reason: religion.

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[...]i'll have to marry someone from a country where same sex marriage is legal and be a citizen there and drop my philippine passport.

You guessed it: RELIGION!

Seems to be a pattern developing here... :roll:


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Sorry, I was sometime not on this website, so the delayed answer....

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[...]t-girls in Philippines call themselves "gay"[...]

A fallacious, insular misinterpretation of the term. That, and the misnomer also relates to the aforementioned religion related issue.

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[...]Seeing myself still as a staight guy, that was sometimes reeeeally irritating for me[...]

Yes -- you're indeed straight... provided it's transsexuals you are attracted to not cross-dressers or men. Though, it should hardly matter (or indeed be irritating) if you are au fait with the reality of what a transsexual is -- ie. a female mind in a male body.


Perhaps that's a wrong perception - but I could not fight the feeling that the the awareness and differentiated view (perhaps even self acceptance) of pre-op T-girls as an individual sexuality and and selfunderstanding different to gay is in Philippines not so far developed as in other countries. - Again, religion is most probably the reason for that.


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[...]holding hands with her or giving her a kiss was for me quite natural[...] in a certain location, it became clear to everyone there (because of her gay and tg friends) that she was a t-girl[...]

Here's the rub: Would you still be so openly affectionate with her if it were obvious from the get-go to all and sundry that she was transsexual? [img]http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n23/Sablicious


Yes - and again yes!
(I am accustomed from Thailand that locals, especially ladies, mostly spot a T-girl with some 95% accuracy, so walking around hand-in-hand with a T-girl means: it is obvious to most of them.)


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 Post subject: Re: Foreign men for Asian Tgirls
 Post Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:26 pm 
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Well it's either one or both of these. 1. Money 2. (Philippine setting) Although ladyboys as time goes are being accepted socially, still Filipino guys are not into ladyboys. Straight Filipino guys tend to value too much "machismo", to point they fear being branded when they get along with ladyboys. Guys would mingle with a group where there is a ladyboy, but there's no way that guy would be alone anywhere with a ladyboy. You would see occasionally a ladyboy and a guy on the street, the first trying to be sweet and close, the second trying to distant himself as much as possible, but this is with involvement of money. (The ladyboy providing for the guy...yes it sucks) Most foreigners, if not all, don't have issue about this. Many view ladyboys as women, and they are not threatened sexuality wise, as they will still feel straight. Because ladyboys protray and live all about femininity, they'll look for some people who would appreciate them as they are, who would satisfy them sexually and emotionally.

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insearch4nicelb wrote:
Sablicious wrote:
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[...]holding hands with her or giving her a kiss was for me quite natural[...] in a certain location, it became clear to everyone there (because of her gay and tg friends) that she was a t-girl[...]

Here's the rub: Would you still be so openly affectionate with her if it were obvious from the get-go to all and sundry that she was transsexual? [img]http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n23/Sablicious


Yes - and again yes!
(I am accustomed from Thailand that locals, especially ladies, mostly spot a T-girl with some 95% accuracy, so walking around hand-in-hand with a T-girl means: it is obvious to most of them.)

Ah! You cheated! Using Thailand as a backdrop is too easy! Image

What if the scenario I presented was in a country with less tolerant people - would you still be as comfortable?
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I think Asian T-Girls prefer foreign men because we offer security. Ok money is important but not nearly as important as a loving, stable relationship that's safe, secure and for life. I get the impression this is not something they can get in their home countries.

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Few ideas:

It can be due to the history of my country. We have been colonized by foreign people that may be resorted to the mentality of the many that a thing or product coming from foreign country especially America is something special. The word "imported" sometimes have a different meaning to us especially to those who live in the rural areas. It can be meant as special, in very good quality or very delicious if you were to talk about food. On the hand, we find white people as very attractive as the majority here have fair or darker skin. I know it is an "inverse relationship" to the white people but it is. Another point, most ladyboys do not believe that a filipino man cannot love them as how a man loves a real girl due to our culture or to the norms of what our society accepts or believed. For the money or support thing, foreign men knows that the quality of life is far different from ours and we are grateful and willing if somebody is willing to support. I believe that ladyboys have a great desire to find love as it is something difficult to achieve on our part. Thanks


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 Post subject: Re: Foreign men for Asian Tgirls
 Post Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:08 pm 
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There is some true to the "chemistry thing," and also to some gentic-driven mechanisms. There is much advantage having muti-ethnic genotype.

I spent some time in the Netherlands (Delf & Rotterdam) and a summer in Aarhus (University). I come from a different culture (South America) and found the laidies just irrisitable; fell in love, but I was to young to marriage. Now, I am still hoping for a Danish or Dutch girl to come to my life. Why? Well is not only because of their phenotype, but it is the way they respond to tenderness and devotion. yet, they are practical and not without a sense of humor. When close, they give up an smell (ehtnic pherohormones) that just made them irressitable. Perhaps the same happens to other people with Asian ladies.

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