what makes man date a transgender?

Indeed M,

If your in love your in love.. but fantasy could become reality when we believe it going to happen..

from my personal experience my fantasy makes me being indenial bout my feelings towards someone and love.. hmmm.. fantasy could make us blind sometimes too and lose opportunity.. I cant deny bout it .. so for now.. I just enjoy the present moment and leave the future for the future..

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bad experienced I take it as a good lesson,
good times I saved it as good memories..

love, peace and happiness..

Well, as for this fantasy you two mentioned... that's exactly what happened to me to get me introduced into this world. I had met a beautiful girl a few years older than myself and she was so intelligent and carried herself well in every situation. She was smart, funny, great to talk with and an amazing friend that was so very understanding. I couldn't help but fall for her! After I asked her to date she agreed a day later with only the warning that she wasn't like any other girl I knew... I thought she meant it was because she was so wonderful of a person... After dating for a while she had a "secret" to tell me... When I found out she was TG I was very supprised and wasn't sure how to handel myself. I asked for a few days to clear my head and decide what I wanted to do. I ended up coming back to her a day later still confessing my love for her but not knowing what the future held for us since that was uncharted territory for me. Her and I stayed together untill I moved back here to where I grew up. Over the last few years I have lost contact with her, but she changed my life forever, and I wont allow myself to close my mind again to a relationship that others might consider taboo. I believe it is a normal as anything when two souls perfect for eachother come together.

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I know it does happen, I guess what I am saying is that if you are spending your life expecting something to happen in a certain way, you may miss a golden opportunity that comes in a different way.

yes, sometimes the fantasy that we subscribe to can make reality disappointing. This is where a mature realism comes in.

For me, my first experience with a transgendered girlfriend was actually pretty much like what you're looking for, oztgirl. I'd been dating a wonderful woman for a few months, lots of handholding while walking by the beach, lots of kisses and cuddles, but we hadn't gone to bed until finally one night we did.

We took ages until finally I got her pants off and was rather surprised to find she didn't have a vagina. She said "I thought you knew." I told her no, and she'd simply assumed I'd realised, or mutual friends had told me...(needless to say she was extremely passable!)

I took a while to think it over, decided that I loved her too much not to live without her, and we continued the relationship. and it was wonderful...

Unfortunately, what I didn't know was she had a drug habit, so when I was in hospital having my appendix out, she burgled my flat, leaving me with almost nothing. She did time for a number of burglaries and other crimes, even made the newspapers at the time... needless to say I had some trust issues there with her!

So I guess it made me realise that it didn't really matter what was between a partners legs so much as what's between their ears. I'm attracted to the feminine, so I don't find guys sexually attractive at all, but women and TS women are. Feminine beauty is feminine beauty for me.

Hope that helps you see it from the guy's perspective. It's not a matter of only looking for a transexual partner, just being open to the option.

cheers,
Tony

I don't seem to have that problem, every guy who has ever been interested in me has run a mile when they find out I am TS. I never let it go on for long and the minute they start showing any physical affection I tell them.

One guy kissed me on the cheek in front of his family. I told him that afternoon. He just couldn't get his head around it.

Another guy was flirting with me all the time and kept calling in to see me whenever he visited my neighbour. He made a pass at me one nights and I told him straight away. He thanked me for telling him and said he still wanted to be friends. I haven't heard from him since.

When I first went on hormones I met a boy in a nightclub. I didn't tell him until he was sitting on my bed (not a good idea). He was a little shocked and asked if I would be offended if he left. I said no. Before I knew what was happening he shoving his tongue down my throat - I guess he didn't really want to leave. He was only interested in sex though. He and I were both too young anyway(19).

If I meet a man and I like him, I pretty much want to go to bed with him straight away. I have always felt more comfortable expressing my affections physically. Maybe that's my problem!

M.

I don't really think expressing affection phyically is a problem, but it might be one if it dosen't send the signels you want. I can say for sure that most signals people send get miss read. But I suppose that's a chance we have to take.

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i like going out with tgirls because they are sexyer and more beautiful and they have that someting extra which i quite enjoy

I don't know if you guys agree, but I think tgirls can be more attentive to their men which makes a difference. Often it seems left up to the guys to do all the romancing and fun stuff. I think its nice to things for a man to let him know he is appreciated. I never forget the look on a friend of mines face when I massaged his feet one night after he got home from work. He had that same look a cat gets when it is being patted! Simple pleasures are often the best.

Oh OzTGirl...remind me to be your friend! hehehehe

But yes, I'd agree, certainly in Australia, I think genetic women here expect men to provide all the romance in a relationship, and set themselves up for disappointment. I know a lot of the younger nurses at work are often complaining to me about how their men don't make enough effort. I occasionally ask them what they've done to build a romantic mood, and they look at me uncomprehendingly.

I agree, the TS women I've met are generally more interested in a romantic relationship, in fact a more personal, more intimate relationship in general.

Overseas, I've found asian women are more open to making an effort in the relationship, and European women in general are more switched on to being a romantic partner. Of course everyone is an individual, and exceptions exist, but these are my impressions from experience.

Expressing yourself physically? I can understand that. It's a very personal and intimate way to express yourself, and sometimes easier than words. Unfortunately people can make it mean something other than your intended message.

Yes, simple gestures are often the best. I still pull out a chair for my date at a restaurant, open doors, and so on.

cheers,
Tony

for me never know this kind i still faraway from any date

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